Mislabeled Intersectional Peony
(Sold to Me as Peony 'Lollipop')
In hopes that you may learn something from Ebay sellers I've purchased from over the years, I decided to create this reference for which sellers send the actual peony stated and which sellers do not - especially since an initial investment in a peony root can take years to show its true colors. Also if you have some direct experience with these same Ebay sellers or different sellers, please leave any concrete information you may have in the comment section below so that we may all benefit from our combined peony purchasing experiences.
Mislabeled Intersectional Peony
(Sold to Me as Peony 'Scarlet Heaven')
| ✓ | right | bloomed with the correct color and form |
| :( | died | died before blooming |
| X | wrong | bloomed with an incorrect color and/or form |
| Peony | Seller | Year | Review |
| Adolphe Rousseau | Ebay - greenerpastures101 | 2006 | |
| Bartzella (Intersectional) | Ebay - mcgper1 | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Benjamin Franklin | Ebay - willowcreekgardens | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Berry Garcia (Intersectional) | Ebay - bernard*sweety (Anna Snitkovskaia - Brooklyn, NY) | 2014 | X wrong - single hot pink root stock |
| Berry Garcia (Intersectional) | Ebay - irislady55 (Joni L. Renshaw, Joni's Dance-In-The-Wind Iris Garden - Tekamah, NE) | 2015 | |
| Black Lotus (Hatsugarasu) (Tree) | Ebay - atskor8 (Svet Vasyl - Moscow, PA) | 2014 | X wrong - wrong tree peony white |
| Bowl of Cream | Ebay - luckybusya | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Canary Brilliants (Intersectional) | Ebay - macao2000 | 2012 | :( died |
| Canary Brilliants (Intersectional) | Ebay - bernard*sweety (Anna Snitkovskaia - Brooklyn, NY) | 2014 | X wrong - single hot pink root stock |
| Chocolate Soldier | Ebay - bigmikek | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Chojuraku 長寿楽 (Longevity Music) (Tree) | Ebay - garden*breeze (Garden's Breeze - Mount Tabor, NJ) | 2016 | |
| Coral Fay | Ebay | 2004 | ✓ right |
| Coral 'N Gold | Ebay - mr.greengenes1 | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Coral Sunset | Ebay - nielsvnoort2c2z (Niels L. Van Noort - Woodland, WA) | 2015 | |
| Dinner Plate | Ebay - luckybusya | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Dr. Alexander Fleming | Ebay - willowcreekgardens | 2007 | |
| Duchesse de Nemours | Ebay - luckybusya | 2004 | ✓ right |
| Flame | Ebay - superchukcha | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Fragrant Jade (Xiang Yu) (Tree) | Ebay - hungsupplysolutions | 2013 | ✓ right |
| Golden Wheel (Huang Jin Lun) | Ebay - beautifulpeony | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Goldmine (Huang Jin Lun) | Ebay - hirtsgardens (Hirts - Wadsworth, OH) | 2016 | |
| Hanakisoi 花競 (Floral Rivalry) (Tree) | Ebay - hirtsgardens (Hirts - Wadsworth, OH) | 2016 | |
| Houki 芳紀 (Charming Age) (Tree) | Ebay - hirtsgardens (Hirts - Wadsworth, OH) | 2016 | |
| High Noon (Tree) | Ebay - hirtsgardens (Hirts - Wadsworth, OH) | 2018 | |
| Hillary (Intersectional) | Ebay - ricknken03cw | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Impossible Dream (Intersectional) | Ebay - atskor8 (Svet Vasyl - Moscow, PA) | 2014 | X wrong - wrong itoh yellow |
| Joannna Marlene (Intersectional) | Ebay - garden*breeze (Garden's Breeze - Mount Tabor, NJ) | 2015 | |
| Julia Rose (Intersectional) | Ebay - ricknken03cw | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Kamata-nishiki 鎌田錦 (Tree) | Ebay - atskor8 (Svet Vasyl - Moscow, PA) | 2014 | :( died |
| Kamata-nishiki 鎌田錦 (Tree) | Ebay - orientalpeony (Yongdong Wu - Upper Malboro, MD) | 2016 | ✓ right |
| Karl Rosenfield | Ebay - willowcreekgardens | 2007 | |
| Kinkaku (Souvenir de Maxime Cornu) (Tree) | Ebay - atskor8 (Svet Vasyl - Moscow, PA) | 2014 | X wrong - wrong tree peony white |
| Koukamon 皇嘉門 (Floral Gate) (Tree) | Ebay - garden*breeze (Garden's Breeze - Mount Tabor, NJ) | 2017 | |
| Lemon Dream (Intersectional) | Ebay - macao2000 | 2012 | :( died |
| Lemon Dream (Intersectional) | Ebay - jackshouse2008 (Therese Sprauer - Brooks, OR) | 2014 | ✓ right |
| Lollipop (Intersectional) | Ebay - atskor8 (Svet Vasyl - Moscow, PA) | 2014 | X wrong - wrong itoh yellow |
| Love Affair (Intersectional) | Ebay - bernard*sweety (Anna Snitkovskaia - Brooklyn, NY) | 2014 | X wrong - single hot pink root stock |
| Mother's Choice | Ebay - mcgper1 | 2005 | ✓ right |
| Mr. Ed | Ebay - hostagardens | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Nymphe | Ebay - superchukcha | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Old Rose Dandy (Intersectional) | Ebay - macao2000 | 2012 | ✓ right |
| Paeonia delavayi var lutea ludlowii (Tree) | Ebay - dogwooderitternet | 2013 | :( died |
| Paeonia rockii (Tree) | Ebay - zwan2392 (Zuncai Wang) | 2013 | ✓ right |
| Paula Fay | Ebay - mr.greengenes1 | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Petticoat Flounce | Ebay - bigmikek | 2007 | |
| Pink Firefly | Ebay - hostagardens | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Pink Jazz | Ebay - luckybusya | 2004 | ✓ right |
| Prairie Charm (Intersectional) | Ebay - vasyl_svet (Sergei Snitkovskiy - Brooklyn, NY) | 2015 | |
| Prairie Charm (Intersectional) | Ebay - orientalpeony (Yongdong Wu - Upper Malboro, MD) | 2016 | |
| Raspberry Firefly | Ebay - greenatlatl | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Red Double Fernleaf | Ebay - hanskaflowers | 2006 | |
| Red Dwarf Single Fernleaf | Ebay - bigmikek | 2007 | |
| Reine Hortense | Ebay - luckybusya | 2005 | |
| Scarlet Heaven (Intersectional) | Ebay - macao2000 | 2012 | X wrong - wrong itoh old rose dandy? |
| Scarlet O'Hara | Ebay - mr.greengenes1 | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Sorbet | Ebay | 2004 | ✓ right |
| Shimadaijin 島大臣 (Island Minister) (Tree) | Ebay - garden*breeze (Garden's Breeze - Mount Tabor, NJ) | 2016 | ✓ right |
| Shimanishiki 島錦 (Island Brocade) (Tree) | Ebay - garden*breeze (Garden's Breeze - Mount Tabor, NJ) | 2017 | |
| Taiyo 太陽 (The Sun) (Tree) | Ebay - tyebrook (Samuel Saunders - Lovingston, Virginia) | 2016 | ✓ right |
| Tom Eckhardt | Ebay - hirtsgardens (Hirts - Wadsworth, OH) | 2007 | |
| Tria (Tree) | Ebay - atskor8 (Svet Vasyl - Moscow, PA) | 2014 | X wrong - wrong tree peony white |
| White Phoenix (Feng Dan Bai) (Tree) | Ebay - easyplantingli | 2013 | ✓ right |
| White Phoenix (Feng Dan Bai) (Tree) | Ebay - hungsupplysolutions (Henry Hung, Hicksville, NY) | 2016 | ✓ right |
| Yao's Yellow (Tree) | Ebay - orientalpeony (Yongdong Wu - Upper Malboro, MD) | 2016 | ✓ right |
| Yellow Crown (Intersectional) | Ebay - mcgper1 | 2007 | ✓ right |
| Yellow Heaven (Intersectional) | Ebay - bernard*sweety (Anna Snitkovskaia - Brooklyn, NY) | 2014 | X wrong - single hot pink root stock |
| Yellow Waterlily (Intersectional) | Ebay - craftygalinmi (Kathy Carrigan, Lacy Creek Growers - Vermontville, MI) | 2015 | |
| Yumi ?? (Possess Beauty) - Yellow Doodle Dandy (Intersectional) | Ebay - atskor8 (Svet Vasyl - Moscow, PA) | 2014 | X wrong - wrong itoh peony prairie charm? |
| Yumi (Possess Beauty) - Yellow Doodle Dandy (Intersectional) | Ebay - garden*breeze (Garden's Breeze - Mount Tabor, NJ) | 2016 | ✓ right |
I purchased Lorelei and Lois's Choice most likely from the same seller but under a different name also based in Brooklyn, NY. I compared the tuber roots of Lorelei when I received them and they did somewhat looks similar though the roots appearance can varied depending on the different climate and growing conditions. Could korina77-2008 be the same person as Anna Snitkovskaia - Brooklyn, NY?
ReplyDeleteI purchased on eBay knowing the possibility of not being true to names but the roots look healthy though.
Hello,
DeleteYes, I'm afraid that there may be a seller intent on duping people that has created multiple Ebay accounts with foreign sounding seller names. Did you check the name on the return address of the box your received? I hope your roots are correct, but I have a sneaking suspicion they may not be. Let us know how it turns out!
Adriana
One of the peony I purchased came with two extra very small divisions that I each crammed into small pots. Interestingly I think there is an premature bud developing. it's in direct full sun and hopefully it might just have enough strength to bloom. If so it would just be enough to sample the color and scent(if any) whether it's really is the peony I purchased. The other potted one hasn't sprouted and might not have made it through the winter. Of all the four cultivars I purchased from two ebayers, this small extra root division that came with the shipment is the only one that's showing a bud development so far. I have heard that cramming peonies by planting them very close together can trick them into blooming prematurely. Perhaps a small pot with just barely enough space to fit in a division did the trick. I'm hoping I will like peonies even if they're not the correct cultivars as sold. There's always a chance with a seedling or NOID peony of being highly fragrant.
DeleteHello,
DeleteI'm glad to hear your divisions are growing, and one is developing a bud. Yes, as long as you are willing to accept that your peonies may be incorrect and like them anyway, I think it is fine. I always think about that before purchasing. Usually the chance they may be right wins out and I purchase them, especially if they are low or moderately priced. :-)
Adriana
It appears 4 out of the 6 peonies I purchased on ebay from 2 different sellers aren't true to name as listed. Though the buds haven't yet bloomed, I can see it's probably a rootstock seedling peony based on the shape and color. One of the seller with the same Brooklyn, NY address charged extra shipping costs for each instead of combining.
DeleteI'm rather upset about situation.
Were you able to report these sellers to ebay?By the time the peony grow or bloom the following spring, its long past the date to be able to report as the options are no longer there.
Do you have any advice on the matter since you have much experiences buying peonies off ebay?
Hello,
DeleteI've only reported it a couple times when the purchase price was over $100 and the sellers seemed to be intentionally defrauding people. Unfortunately since the length of time was so long, the protections basically ran out. I just kept calling, asking for managers, filing disputes, providing documentation, and being patient. If they do help you, it won't be through the normal process / protections. They will have to give you some type of courtesy credit (if they so choose). You may have to spend quite a lot of time on the phone and writing letters. So it's up to you if you want to put that much into it. Unfortunately since the protection time had run out, and the seller had a provided tracking number that said the item was delivered, the at-fault seller was never found at-fault. That's the unfortunate part. You may be able to get a resolution either through your credit card company or through Ebay/Paypal. I would advise trying both if you're going to try. You never know who might be willing to help you. Good luck!
Adriana
Have you seen this list of scammers - same one(s) that ripped you off... this should not go on unchecked.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-home/230900-current-ebay-scammers-list
Hello,
DeleteNo, I had not seen this list. Interesting that they are trying to sell rare figs as well as rare peonies that are fakes.
Adriana
And grapes, and mushrooms, etc...
DeleteBut thanks to you for all the work you put in helping to expose them!
Adriana, It's not interesting at all. It's a total scam where the purchaser does not know what they received until it's too late to return. They/she are total crooks laughing all the way to the bank. Unfortunately eBay looks at it as he-said/she-said and as long as they are making $ they are not going to ban the crooks. Sadly, Amazon is becoming the same way..a portal for crooks to invade our hope, dreams and eventually our wallets.
ReplyDeleteHello,
DeleteYes, it seems scams are multiplying these days with the internet. It is definitely "buyer beware". I'm not happy to hear of others losing money, but I'm glad to know we have had similar experiences with particular sellers. That's just more corroborating evidence for other potential customers to stay away from those sellers. Good luck and stay safe out there!
Adriana